Chat-GPT comparison of BMI and DEXA
Body Mass Index (BMI):
BMI is the most widely used method to assess obesity and overweight status in both adults and children due to its simplicity. It's a calculation based on a person's weight and height (BMI = kg/m2).
Pros of BMI:
Simple and quick: It only requires knowledge of a person's height and weight.
Widely accepted: Most studies and clinical settings use BMI to define obesity, making it easy to compare results across different populations and studies.
Cons of BMI:
Not direct: BMI doesn't directly measure body fat. It's possible for a muscular individual to have a high BMI but low body fat percentage.
No regional fat distribution: BMI cannot tell us about the distribution of fat within the body. This is important because visceral fat (around the organs) is more strongly linked to health risks than subcutaneous fat (under the skin).
Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry (DEXA):
DEXA is a more advanced method that can directly measure body composition, including bone, fat, and muscle mass.
Pros of DEXA:
Direct measurement: DEXA provides a direct and accurate measurement of body fat percentage.
Regional fat distribution: DEXA can differentiate between different types of body tissue, and thus can give information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body.
Cons of DEXA:
Complexity: DEXA requires special equipment and trained professionals, making it less accessible and more expensive than BMI.
Radiation exposure: Although the amount of radiation from a DEXA scan is quite low, it's still a factor to consider.
Overall, while BMI is a practical tool for initial screening and population-level studies, it has its limitations. DEXA provides more accurate and comprehensive data about body composition, but its use is often limited to research settings or specific clinical circumstances due to its higher cost and complexity.
GPT comparing DEXA amd Body Impedance
Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry (DEXA):
DEXA is a more advanced method that directly measures body composition, including bone, fat, and muscle mass.
Pros of DEXA:
Direct and accurate measurement: DEXA provides a direct and accurate measurement of body fat percentage.
Regional fat distribution: DEXA can differentiate between different types of body tissue, and thus can give information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body.
Cons of DEXA:
Complexity: DEXA requires special equipment and trained professionals, making it less accessible and more expensive than other methods.
Radiation exposure: Although the amount of radiation from a DEXA scan is quite low, it's still a factor to consider.
Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis (BIA):
BIA estimates body composition by sending a small electrical current through the body and measuring the resistance to this current. The principle is that different tissues (fat, muscle, bone) conduct electricity differently.
Pros of BIA:
Simplicity and speed: BIA is a relatively simple, quick, and non-invasive method to estimate body composition.
Accessibility: BIA scales and handheld devices can be used at home, in a fitness setting, or in a clinical setting.
Cons of BIA:
Accuracy: The accuracy of BIA can be affected by many factors, including hydration status, food intake, skin temperature, and recent physical activity. Therefore, it's less accurate than DEXA.
Less detailed information: BIA does not provide as detailed information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body as DEXA.
In conclusion, while DEXA provides more accurate and detailed information about body composition, its use is often limited to research settings or specific clinical circumstances due to its higher cost, complexity, and radiation exposure. On the other hand, BIA is a practical tool for estimating body composition in many settings, but its accuracy can be affected by various factors and it provides less detailed information compared to DEXA.
Comparision of Body Fat Measures - 2004
Body composition changes in bodybuilders: a method comparison
BMI, body mass index;
SF, skinfolds;
BIA, bioimpedance;
DXA, dual x-ray absorptiometry;
dil, dilution by deuterium;
uww, underwater weighing;
3Cw, three-component model with body water;
3Cb, three-component model with body minerals.
 Download the PDF from VitaminDWiki
100's of body weight scales on Amazon also measure body impedance - as low as $10
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Comparison of measurement of Body Composition
MySportScience
- FACT: People who are obese have less vitamin D in their blood
- FACT: Obese need a higher dose of vitamin D to get to the same level of vit D
- FACT: When obese people lose weight the vitamin D level in their blood increases
- FACT: Adding Calcium, perhaps in the form of fortified milk, often reduces weight
- FACT: 168 trials for vitamin D intervention of obesity as of Dec 2021
- FACT: Less weight gain by senior women with > 30 ng of vitamin D
- FACT: Dieters lost additional 5 lbs if vitamin D supplementation got them above 32 ng - RCT
- FACT: Obese lost 3X more weight by adding $10 of Vitamin D
- FACT: Those with darker skins were more likely to be obese Sept 2014
- OBSERVATION: Low Vitamin D while pregnancy ==> more obese child and adult
- OBSERVATION: Many mammals had evolved to add fat and vitamin D in the autumn
- and lose both in the Spring - unfortunately humans have forgotten to lose the fat in the Spring
- SPECULATION: Low vitamin D might be one of the causes of obesity – several studies
- SUGGESTION: Probably need more than 4,000 IU to lose weight if very low on vitamin D due to
risk factors such as overweight, age, dark skin, live far from equator,shut-in, etc.
- Obesity category has
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See also: Weight loss and Vitamin D - many studies Child Obesity and Vitamin D - many studies Obesity, Virus, and Vitamin D - many studies
Obese need more Vitamin D
- Normal weight Obese (50 ng = 125 nanomole)
Click here for 2014 study
- Normal weight Obese (50 ng = 125 nanomole)
Fast weight loss by Obese Adults: Summary of the data as of Sept 2019
1) 50,000 IU Vitamin D weekly for at least 6 months
If gut problems, should use a gut-friendly form of vitamin D
2) Add calorie restriction diet and light exercise after ~2 months*
* Vitamin D levels must be above 30ng/ml to help with weight loss
* Start losing weight 2 months sooner if take a 50,000 IU daily for a week
3) More weight loss if also add Magnesium or cofactors
30% Improved Vitamin D response with Magnesium - a Vitamin D Cofactor
Note: Magnesium reduces weight loss by itself as well
20% improved vitamin D response if also add Omega-3 a Vitamin D Cofactor
Note: Omega-3 reduces weight loss by itself as well
4) More weight loss if also improve activation of Vitamin D Receptor
Vitamin D Receptor activator: 0-30% improved Vitamin D response
Obesity 1.5 X more likely if poor Vitamin D Receptor – meta-analysis Nov 2019
Update Dec 2019 - Dr. Greger plant-based eating (not diet) for both weight loss and health.
His book does not mention Vitamin D nor Adenovirus
33+ VitaminDWiki pages with BMI in the title
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Items found: 35
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Predict 50nmol if take 600 IU of Vitamin D for 7 months (UK, ignoring BMI, etc) – June 2024 |
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27 Jun, 2024 |
Predictors of low vitamin D: race, age, and BMI (confirmed now by Machine Learning) – Feb 2024 |
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07 Mar, 2024 |
Obesity of 9,000 US adults: DEXA said 72% were obese, BMI said 42% were obese – June 2023 |
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20 Jun, 2023 |
Childhood BMI decreased when add a little Vitamin D – meta-analysis March 2023 |
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03 Mar, 2023 |
Vitamin D, by itself, does not decrease BMI – meta-analysis March 2018 |
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04 Dec, 2022 |
Vitamin D reduces BMI and waist circumference – umbrella meta-analysis – Sept 2022 |
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27 Sep, 2022 |
Teens more obese if lower Vitamin D as infant (1.3 more BMI points per 10 ng) – Oct 2020 |
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07 Oct, 2020 |
The higher the BMI, the lower the Vitamin D, with some difference between men and women – Dec 2019 |
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30 Dec, 2019 |
The more vitamin D the lower the infant BMI – March 2011 |
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08 Sep, 2019 |
Skin fold thickness but not BMI associated with poor Vitamin D Receptor in Han Chinese – April 2018 |
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13 Apr, 2019 |
BMI reduced by Vitamin D (not much reduction – only got VitD to 26 ng) – RCT Feb 2018 |
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24 Feb, 2018 |
Full-fat milk for children associated with higher Vitamin D and lower BMI – Dec 2016 |
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10 Nov, 2017 |
Obese need more Vitamin D: Volume dilution, IU per pound, or BMI – RCT Dec 2012 |
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14 Aug, 2016 |
Preeclampsia 2X more likely if low vitamin D, unless adjust for vitamin D factors (BMI, skin color) – Dec 2015 |
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21 Jan, 2016 |
Vitamin D not associated with PAD after adjusting for race, diabetes and BMI – July 2012 |
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15 Oct, 2015 |
Vitamin D thresholds in elderly vary with the disease, sex, and BMI, etc. – April 2015 |
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10 Apr, 2015 |
High risk of premature birth if high BMI (low vitamin D) – June 2013 |
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21 Mar, 2015 |
High risk of extremely premature birth if high BMI (low vitamin D) – June 2013 |
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21 Mar, 2015 |
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease associated with low vitamin D – independent of BMI – June 2014 |
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31 Dec, 2014 |
Half of the women who are fat do not have a high BMI – March 2012 |
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24 Dec, 2014 |
Higher BMI need more vitamin D – Oct 2010 |
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06 Nov, 2014 |
Higher BMI decreased response to 700 IU vitamin D – RCT 2008 |
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26 Feb, 2013 |
When BMI is an incorrect measure of obesity - March 2010 |
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12 Jan, 2013 |
Higher BMI associated with lower vitamin D – Sept 2012 |
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28 Dec, 2012 |
CDC vitamin D statistics for women: including blacks and high BMI – March 2012 |
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03 Nov, 2012 |
95 percent of astmatics low on vitamin D -esp high BMI April 2012 |
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07 Aug, 2012 |
More response to 1100 IU vitamin D in cold season or less BMI – May 2012 |
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15 May, 2012 |
Map of BMI increase - Feb 2011 |
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03 Apr, 2012 |
Obesity (BMI and waist circumference) associated with low vitamin D – Feb 2012 |
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09 Feb, 2012 |
Skin tone changes with season – high BMI different – Mar 2011 |
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19 Mar, 2011 |
Vitamin D serum prediction based on IU skin color and BMI – June 2010 |
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07 Aug, 2010 |
BMI was excellent predictor of vitamin D levels – Feb 2010 |
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25 Jun, 2010 |
Hockey stick relationship between vitamin D and BMI April 2010 |
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30 Apr, 2010 |
BMI decreased by Vitamin D (none of the trials used enough D for long enough) – meta-analysis July 2019 |
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Fitness is associated with vitamin D, even accounting for BMI – Oct 2011 |
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67+ VitaminDWiki Obesity pages with WEIGHT in the title
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Items found: 74
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Permanent Weight Loss - lots of Vitamin D then water-fast (2 people so far) - July 2023 |
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28 Nov, 2024 |
40% of weight loss from GLP-1 is from muscle loss (not so if lose weight with Vitamin D) - Nov 2024 |
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22 Nov, 2024 |
Why vitamin D is not advertised for weight loss - it was patented |
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22 Nov, 2024 |
40% of weight loss from GLP-1 is from muscle loss, not fat loss (including heart muscle) - Nov 2024 |
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22 Nov, 2024 |
Body weight not reduced by small doses of calcitriol – meta-analysis Sept 2024 |
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23 Sep, 2024 |
Weight loss drugs increase unplanned pregnancies (perhaps due to Vitamin D) - May 2024 |
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19 May, 2024 |
Risk of Vitamin D deficiency with Breast Cancer: 2.7 X if normal weight, 7 X if obese (no surprise) – March 2024 |
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26 Mar, 2024 |
Weight loss and Vitamin D - many studies |
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20 Aug, 2023 |
Response to Vitamin D varies with genes (3,000 IU, weight loss in this RCT) – March 2022 |
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22 Mar, 2022 |
Many people are actively trying to lose weight gained during pandemic - Vitamin D will help |
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13 Dec, 2021 |
Weight loss on low-calorie diet: 7 lbs more lost if got lots of Vitamin D – June 2021 |
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13 Dec, 2021 |
Little weight loss in obese children from very small amount of vitamin D (1200 IU) – RCT April 2020 |
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19 Jun, 2020 |
Large weight loss 32X more likely to be achieved if weight gain was due to Vitamin D Receptor – Jan 2020 |
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31 Jan, 2020 |
Obese lost more weight on diet if added 50,000 IU of vitamin D weekly – many RCTs |
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25 Dec, 2019 |
Obese taking 50,000 IU of vitamin D weekly lost more weight (again) – RCT Dec 2019 |
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25 Dec, 2019 |
2.3 X more weight loss in those who had low vitamin D levels and took some – Dec 2019 |
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18 Dec, 2019 |
Increased risk of weight gain when gene restricts Vitamin D getting to tissues (CYP24A1 in this case) – Nov 2019 |
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07 Nov, 2019 |
Increased weight in children 8X more likely for each unit increase in adenovirus (if ignore Vitamin D) – Nov 2019 |
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07 Nov, 2019 |
The Vitamin That Quadruples Weight Loss - Oct 2019 |
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26 Oct, 2019 |
Obese lost 3X more weight with Vitamin D - July 2018 |
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09 Sep, 2019 |
This Common Vitamin Doubles Weight Loss– July 2019 |
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21 Jul, 2019 |
Ketogenic Diet – if lose 10 kg of weight, restore 4 ng of Vitamin D – June 2019 |
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14 Jul, 2019 |
Omega-3 may reduce weight gain and maintain weight loss – Aug 2018 |
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03 Nov, 2018 |
Vitamin D and Resveratrol reduce weight gain in rats - Sept 2011 |
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22 Sep, 2018 |
How Omega-3 fights metabolic syndrome and weight – Feb 2018 |
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11 Sep, 2018 |
Less weight gain if more vitamin D (in rats) – 2017 |
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28 Jan, 2018 |
Less weight gain if add Vitamin D, even if have a high fat diet (in rats) – RCT Dec 2017 |
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02 Jan, 2018 |
Increased Testosterone and Erectile function, decreased weight with Vitamin D – March 2017 |
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31 Aug, 2017 |
MSG induces weight gain in female rats not supplemented with active vitamin D – April 2017 |
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15 Apr, 2017 |
UVB 50 percent more response in obese than normal weight (other study disagrees) – Feb 2017 |
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02 Mar, 2017 |
Off topic: Lose weight by drinking water when feel hungry, eat 20 minutes later if still hungry |
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31 Jul, 2016 |
Vitamin D activates the hypothalamus (in rodents) to reduce weight and diabetes– May 2016 |
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25 May, 2016 |
Increase in Vitamin D deficiency with weight and skin darkness – chart – March 2016 |
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10 Mar, 2016 |
Weight loss increased Vitamin D levels, which improved bones and decreased inflammation – Oct 2015 |
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18 Aug, 2015 |
During weight loss a 1 percent decrease in fat resulted in 1 percent increase in vitamin D levels - June 2015 |
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23 Jun, 2015 |
Weight loss includes muscle loss unless add vitamin D, whey and leucine – RCT Feb 2015 |
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07 Feb, 2015 |
Less weight gain by senior women if vitamin D levels over 30 ng – Kaiser Dec 2012 |
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10 Jan, 2015 |
Off topic – Proven again – artificial sweeteners actually make you GAIN weight – Oct 2012 |
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23 Dec, 2014 |
Low-level antibiotics causes weight gain in mice (and most mammals) – Aug 2014 |
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09 Nov, 2014 |
Weight loss with salacia reticulata and just 200 IU of vitamin D – RCT 2013 |
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16 Aug, 2014 |
Less weight gain in mice getting lots of vitamin D – June 2014 |
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03 Aug, 2014 |
Need 75 IU vitamin D per kg of body weight (volume dilution) – March 2013 |
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05 May, 2014 |
40 percent less likely to gain weight if live at high altitude (no mention of UVB nor vitamin D) – April 2014 |
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25 Apr, 2014 |
Weight reduction review – Vitamin D and Calcium may help – July 2011 |
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21 Mar, 2014 |
Weight loss and Vitamin D, Calcium, and Magnesium |
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14 Mar, 2014 |
Weight loss by UV or Vitamin D |
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14 Mar, 2014 |
No weight loss when average over trials lasting 6 weeks and only 200 IU of vitamin D – meta-analysis July 2013 |
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03 Nov, 2013 |
Obese children gain weight more quickly when have low vitamin D – Oct 2013 |
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17 Oct, 2013 |
Need 40 to 80 ng of vitamin D to lose weight – Colgan Sept 2013 |
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22 Sep, 2013 |
Those low on vitamin D were 2.4X more likely to gain weight – June 2013 |
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06 Jun, 2013 |
Vitamin D and Obesity: review concludes that D is just diluted by total weight – April 2013 |
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17 Apr, 2013 |
Higher weight and blood pressure in second generation from mother mouse who had low vitamin D – 2012 |
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14 Feb, 2013 |
Lost more weight on low calorie diet if add 600 mg Ca and just 150 IU vitamin D – RCT Jan 2013 |
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10 Jan, 2013 |
400 IU of Vitamin D is just diluted by weight, and not stored in fat – Jan 2012 |
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07 Nov, 2012 |
Weight loss of at least 10 percent resulted in 5 ng increase in vitamin D levels – Sept 2012 |
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29 Sep, 2012 |
Vitamin D levels increased when senior women lost weight – July 2011 |
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18 Jul, 2012 |
32 ng vitamin D and 500 mg of Calcium helped reduce weight by 5.6 kg – Sept 2010 |
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25 May, 2012 |
Low vitamin D in womb linked to more weight at age 6 – May 2012 |
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24 May, 2012 |
How might Calcium and Vitamin D cause weight loss – Mar 2012 |
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17 May, 2012 |
Vitamins To Speed Up Metabolism And Aid Weight Loss – May 2011 |
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01 Sep, 2011 |
Bone lost during postmenopausal dieting not all recovered with weight re-gain – Aug 2011 |
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21 Aug, 2011 |
Losing weight increases vitamin D level – June 2010 |
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23 May, 2011 |
Women can lose weight with vitamin D - Nov 2010 |
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30 Jan, 2011 |
Middle-aged women gained weight if they did not drink fortified milk – Sept 2010 |
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20 Nov, 2010 |
Half of newborn deaths are due to excessive weight of their mothers – Oct 2010 |
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16 Oct, 2010 |
More calcium and vitamin D resulted in weight loss – Sept 2010 |
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28 Sep, 2010 |
Calcium and vitamin D aided weight loss – RCT Sept 2010 |
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13 Sep, 2010 |
Weight loss improves both vitamin D and insulin resistance – Sept 2010 |
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09 Sep, 2010 |
Multivitamins and minerals helped obese lose weight – Feb 2010 |
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27 Aug, 2010 |
Amylase increases with age, as does weight |
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10 Aug, 2010 |
Vitamin D and Weight Loss and Obesity – March 2010 |
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08 Aug, 2010 |
Lose weight and increase vitamin D level in blood – April 2010 |
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08 Aug, 2010 |
Adequate Vitamin D Levels May Aid Weight Loss in Obese Patients – Minn. 2009 |
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08 Aug, 2010 |
Vitamin D Promotes Weight Loss – Jan 2010 |
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08 Aug, 2010 |
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