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Obesity of 9,000 US adults: DEXA said 72% were obese, BMI said 42% were obese – June 2023


MDEdge – BMI ‘vastly underestimates’ true obesity

Chat-GPT comparison of BMI and DEXA

Body Mass Index (BMI):
BMI is the most widely used method to assess obesity and overweight status in both adults and children due to its simplicity. It's a calculation based on a person's weight and height (BMI = kg/m2).

Pros of BMI:
Simple and quick: It only requires knowledge of a person's height and weight.
Widely accepted: Most studies and clinical settings use BMI to define obesity, making it easy to compare results across different populations and studies.

Cons of BMI:
Not direct: BMI doesn't directly measure body fat. It's possible for a muscular individual to have a high BMI but low body fat percentage.
No regional fat distribution: BMI cannot tell us about the distribution of fat within the body. This is important because visceral fat (around the organs) is more strongly linked to health risks than subcutaneous fat (under the skin).

Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry (DEXA):
DEXA is a more advanced method that can directly measure body composition, including bone, fat, and muscle mass.

Pros of DEXA:
Direct measurement: DEXA provides a direct and accurate measurement of body fat percentage.
Regional fat distribution: DEXA can differentiate between different types of body tissue, and thus can give information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body.

Cons of DEXA:
Complexity: DEXA requires special equipment and trained professionals, making it less accessible and more expensive than BMI.
Radiation exposure: Although the amount of radiation from a DEXA scan is quite low, it's still a factor to consider.

Overall, while BMI is a practical tool for initial screening and population-level studies, it has its limitations. DEXA provides more accurate and comprehensive data about body composition, but its use is often limited to research settings or specific clinical circumstances due to its higher cost and complexity.


GPT comparing DEXA amd Body Impedance

Dual-Energy X-ray Absorptiometry (DEXA):
DEXA is a more advanced method that directly measures body composition, including bone, fat, and muscle mass.

Pros of DEXA:
Direct and accurate measurement: DEXA provides a direct and accurate measurement of body fat percentage.
Regional fat distribution: DEXA can differentiate between different types of body tissue, and thus can give information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body.

Cons of DEXA:
Complexity: DEXA requires special equipment and trained professionals, making it less accessible and more expensive than other methods.
Radiation exposure: Although the amount of radiation from a DEXA scan is quite low, it's still a factor to consider.
Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis (BIA):
BIA estimates body composition by sending a small electrical current through the body and measuring the resistance to this current. The principle is that different tissues (fat, muscle, bone) conduct electricity differently.

Pros of BIA:
Simplicity and speed: BIA is a relatively simple, quick, and non-invasive method to estimate body composition.
Accessibility: BIA scales and handheld devices can be used at home, in a fitness setting, or in a clinical setting.

Cons of BIA:
Accuracy: The accuracy of BIA can be affected by many factors, including hydration status, food intake, skin temperature, and recent physical activity. Therefore, it's less accurate than DEXA.
Less detailed information: BIA does not provide as detailed information about the distribution of fat and muscle within the body as DEXA.

In conclusion, while DEXA provides more accurate and detailed information about body composition, its use is often limited to research settings or specific clinical circumstances due to its higher cost, complexity, and radiation exposure. On the other hand, BIA is a practical tool for estimating body composition in many settings, but its accuracy can be affected by various factors and it provides less detailed information compared to DEXA.


Comparision of Body Fat Measures - 2004

Body composition changes in bodybuilders: a method comparison
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BMI, body mass index;
SF, skinfolds;
BIA, bioimpedance;
DXA, dual x-ray absorptiometry;
dil, dilution by deuterium;
uww, underwater weighing;
3Cw, three-component model with body water;
3Cb, three-component model with body minerals.
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Comparison of measurement of Body Composition

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VitaminDWiki – Overview Obesity and Vitamin D contains

See also: Weight loss and Vitamin D - many studies   Child Obesity and Vitamin D - many studies   Obesity, Virus, and Vitamin D - many studies
Obese need more Vitamin D
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  • Normal weight     Obese     (50 ng = 125 nanomole)

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  • Normal weight     Obese     (50 ng = 125 nanomole)

VitaminDWiki – Obesity is associated and treated by Vitamin D

Fast weight loss by Obese Adults: Summary of the data as of Sept 2019
1) 50,000 IU Vitamin D weekly for at least 6 months
   If gut problems, should use a gut-friendly form of vitamin D
2) Add calorie restriction diet and light exercise after ~2 months*
   * Vitamin D levels must be above 30ng/ml to help with weight loss
   * Start losing weight 2 months sooner if take a 50,000 IU daily for a week
3) More weight loss if also add Magnesium or cofactors
   30% Improved Vitamin D response with Magnesium - a Vitamin D Cofactor
   Note: Magnesium reduces weight loss by itself as well
   20% improved vitamin D response if also add Omega-3 a Vitamin D Cofactor
  Note: Omega-3 reduces weight loss by itself as well
4) More weight loss if also improve activation of Vitamin D Receptor
   Vitamin D Receptor activator: 0-30% improved Vitamin D response
   Obesity 1.5 X more likely if poor Vitamin D Receptor – meta-analysis Nov 2019
Update Dec 2019 - Dr. Greger plant-based eating (not diet) for both weight loss and health.
  His book does not mention Vitamin D nor Adenovirus


33+ VitaminDWiki pages with BMI in the title

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Items found: 35
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Predict 50nmol if take 600 IU of Vitamin D for 7 months (UK, ignoring BMI, etc) – June 2024 27 Jun, 2024
Predictors of low vitamin D: race, age, and BMI (confirmed now by Machine Learning) – Feb 2024 07 Mar, 2024
Obesity of 9,000 US adults: DEXA said 72% were obese, BMI said 42% were obese – June 2023 20 Jun, 2023
Childhood BMI decreased when add a little Vitamin D – meta-analysis March 2023 03 Mar, 2023
Vitamin D, by itself, does not decrease BMI – meta-analysis March 2018 04 Dec, 2022
Vitamin D reduces BMI and waist circumference – umbrella meta-analysis – Sept 2022 27 Sep, 2022
Teens more obese if lower Vitamin D as infant (1.3 more BMI points per 10 ng) – Oct 2020 07 Oct, 2020
The higher the BMI, the lower the Vitamin D, with some difference between men and women – Dec 2019 30 Dec, 2019
The more vitamin D the lower the infant BMI – March 2011 08 Sep, 2019
Skin fold thickness but not BMI associated with poor Vitamin D Receptor in Han Chinese – April 2018 13 Apr, 2019
BMI reduced by Vitamin D (not much reduction – only got VitD to 26 ng) – RCT Feb 2018 24 Feb, 2018
Full-fat milk for children associated with higher Vitamin D and lower BMI – Dec 2016 10 Nov, 2017
Obese need more Vitamin D: Volume dilution, IU per pound, or BMI – RCT Dec 2012 14 Aug, 2016
Preeclampsia 2X more likely if low vitamin D, unless adjust for vitamin D factors (BMI, skin color) – Dec 2015 21 Jan, 2016
Vitamin D not associated with PAD after adjusting for race, diabetes and BMI – July 2012 15 Oct, 2015
Vitamin D thresholds in elderly vary with the disease, sex, and BMI, etc. – April 2015 10 Apr, 2015
High risk of premature birth if high BMI (low vitamin D) – June 2013 21 Mar, 2015
High risk of extremely premature birth if high BMI (low vitamin D) – June 2013 21 Mar, 2015
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease associated with low vitamin D – independent of BMI – June 2014 31 Dec, 2014
Half of the women who are fat do not have a high BMI – March 2012 24 Dec, 2014
Higher BMI need more vitamin D – Oct 2010 06 Nov, 2014
Higher BMI decreased response to 700 IU vitamin D – RCT 2008 26 Feb, 2013
When BMI is an incorrect measure of obesity - March 2010 12 Jan, 2013
Higher BMI associated with lower vitamin D – Sept 2012 28 Dec, 2012
CDC vitamin D statistics for women: including blacks and high BMI – March 2012 03 Nov, 2012
95 percent of astmatics low on vitamin D -esp high BMI April 2012 07 Aug, 2012
More response to 1100 IU vitamin D in cold season or less BMI – May 2012 15 May, 2012
Map of BMI increase - Feb 2011 03 Apr, 2012
Obesity (BMI and waist circumference) associated with low vitamin D – Feb 2012 09 Feb, 2012
Skin tone changes with season – high BMI different – Mar 2011 19 Mar, 2011
Vitamin D serum prediction based on IU skin color and BMI – June 2010 07 Aug, 2010
BMI was excellent predictor of vitamin D levels – Feb 2010 25 Jun, 2010
Hockey stick relationship between vitamin D and BMI April 2010 30 Apr, 2010
BMI decreased by Vitamin D (none of the trials used enough D for long enough) – meta-analysis July 2019 No value for 'modification_date_major'
Fitness is associated with vitamin D, even accounting for BMI – Oct 2011 No value for 'modification_date_major'

67+ VitaminDWiki Obesity pages with WEIGHT in the title

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Permanent Weight Loss - lots of Vitamin D then water-fast (2 people so far) - July 2023 28 Nov, 2024
40% of weight loss from GLP-1 is from muscle loss (not so if lose weight with Vitamin D) - Nov 2024 22 Nov, 2024
Why vitamin D is not advertised for weight loss - it was patented 22 Nov, 2024
40% of weight loss from GLP-1 is from muscle loss, not fat loss (including heart muscle) - Nov 2024 22 Nov, 2024
Body weight not reduced by small doses of calcitriol – meta-analysis Sept 2024 23 Sep, 2024
Weight loss drugs increase unplanned pregnancies (perhaps due to Vitamin D) - May 2024 19 May, 2024
Risk of Vitamin D deficiency with Breast Cancer: 2.7 X if normal weight, 7 X if obese (no surprise) – March 2024 26 Mar, 2024
Weight loss and Vitamin D - many studies 20 Aug, 2023
Response to Vitamin D varies with genes (3,000 IU, weight loss in this RCT) – March 2022 22 Mar, 2022
Many people are actively trying to lose weight gained during pandemic - Vitamin D will help 13 Dec, 2021
Weight loss on low-calorie diet: 7 lbs more lost if got lots of Vitamin D – June 2021 13 Dec, 2021
Little weight loss in obese children from very small amount of vitamin D (1200 IU) – RCT April 2020 19 Jun, 2020
Large weight loss 32X more likely to be achieved if weight gain was due to Vitamin D Receptor – Jan 2020 31 Jan, 2020
Obese lost more weight on diet if added 50,000 IU of vitamin D weekly – many RCTs 25 Dec, 2019
Obese taking 50,000 IU of vitamin D weekly lost more weight (again) – RCT Dec 2019 25 Dec, 2019
2.3 X more weight loss in those who had low vitamin D levels and took some – Dec 2019 18 Dec, 2019
Increased risk of weight gain when gene restricts Vitamin D getting to tissues (CYP24A1 in this case) – Nov 2019 07 Nov, 2019
Increased weight in children 8X more likely for each unit increase in adenovirus (if ignore Vitamin D) – Nov 2019 07 Nov, 2019
The Vitamin That Quadruples Weight Loss - Oct 2019 26 Oct, 2019
Obese lost 3X more weight with Vitamin D - July 2018 09 Sep, 2019
This Common Vitamin Doubles Weight Loss– July 2019 21 Jul, 2019
Ketogenic Diet – if lose 10 kg of weight, restore 4 ng of Vitamin D – June 2019 14 Jul, 2019
Omega-3 may reduce weight gain and maintain weight loss – Aug 2018 03 Nov, 2018
Vitamin D and Resveratrol reduce weight gain in rats - Sept 2011 22 Sep, 2018
How Omega-3 fights metabolic syndrome and weight – Feb 2018 11 Sep, 2018
Less weight gain if more vitamin D (in rats) – 2017 28 Jan, 2018
Less weight gain if add Vitamin D, even if have a high fat diet (in rats) – RCT Dec 2017 02 Jan, 2018
Increased Testosterone and Erectile function, decreased weight with Vitamin D – March 2017 31 Aug, 2017
MSG induces weight gain in female rats not supplemented with active vitamin D – April 2017 15 Apr, 2017
UVB 50 percent more response in obese than normal weight (other study disagrees) – Feb 2017 02 Mar, 2017
Off topic: Lose weight by drinking water when feel hungry, eat 20 minutes later if still hungry 31 Jul, 2016
Vitamin D activates the hypothalamus (in rodents) to reduce weight and diabetes– May 2016 25 May, 2016
Increase in Vitamin D deficiency with weight and skin darkness – chart – March 2016 10 Mar, 2016
Weight loss increased Vitamin D levels, which improved bones and decreased inflammation – Oct 2015 18 Aug, 2015
During weight loss a 1 percent decrease in fat resulted in 1 percent increase in vitamin D levels - June 2015 23 Jun, 2015
Weight loss includes muscle loss unless add vitamin D, whey and leucine – RCT Feb 2015 07 Feb, 2015
Less weight gain by senior women if vitamin D levels over 30 ng – Kaiser Dec 2012 10 Jan, 2015
Off topic – Proven again – artificial sweeteners actually make you GAIN weight – Oct 2012 23 Dec, 2014
Low-level antibiotics causes weight gain in mice (and most mammals) – Aug 2014 09 Nov, 2014
Weight loss with salacia reticulata and just 200 IU of vitamin D – RCT 2013 16 Aug, 2014
Less weight gain in mice getting lots of vitamin D – June 2014 03 Aug, 2014
Need 75 IU vitamin D per kg of body weight (volume dilution) – March 2013 05 May, 2014
40 percent less likely to gain weight if live at high altitude (no mention of UVB nor vitamin D) – April 2014 25 Apr, 2014
Weight reduction review – Vitamin D and Calcium may help – July 2011 21 Mar, 2014
Weight loss and Vitamin D, Calcium, and Magnesium 14 Mar, 2014
Weight loss by UV or Vitamin D 14 Mar, 2014
No weight loss when average over trials lasting 6 weeks and only 200 IU of vitamin D – meta-analysis July 2013 03 Nov, 2013
Obese children gain weight more quickly when have low vitamin D – Oct 2013 17 Oct, 2013
Need 40 to 80 ng of vitamin D to lose weight – Colgan Sept 2013 22 Sep, 2013
Those low on vitamin D were 2.4X more likely to gain weight – June 2013 06 Jun, 2013
Vitamin D and Obesity: review concludes that D is just diluted by total weight – April 2013 17 Apr, 2013
Higher weight and blood pressure in second generation from mother mouse who had low vitamin D – 2012 14 Feb, 2013
Lost more weight on low calorie diet if add 600 mg Ca and just 150 IU vitamin D – RCT Jan 2013 10 Jan, 2013
400 IU of Vitamin D is just diluted by weight, and not stored in fat – Jan 2012 07 Nov, 2012
Weight loss of at least 10 percent resulted in 5 ng increase in vitamin D levels – Sept 2012 29 Sep, 2012
Vitamin D levels increased when senior women lost weight – July 2011 18 Jul, 2012
32 ng vitamin D and 500 mg of Calcium helped reduce weight by 5.6 kg – Sept 2010 25 May, 2012
Low vitamin D in womb linked to more weight at age 6 – May 2012 24 May, 2012
How might Calcium and Vitamin D cause weight loss – Mar 2012 17 May, 2012
Vitamins To Speed Up Metabolism And Aid Weight Loss – May 2011 01 Sep, 2011
Bone lost during postmenopausal dieting not all recovered with weight re-gain – Aug 2011 21 Aug, 2011
Losing weight increases vitamin D level – June 2010 23 May, 2011
Women can lose weight with vitamin D - Nov 2010 30 Jan, 2011
Middle-aged women gained weight if they did not drink fortified milk – Sept 2010 20 Nov, 2010
Half of newborn deaths are due to excessive weight of their mothers – Oct 2010 16 Oct, 2010
More calcium and vitamin D resulted in weight loss – Sept 2010 28 Sep, 2010
Calcium and vitamin D aided weight loss – RCT Sept 2010 13 Sep, 2010
Weight loss improves both vitamin D and insulin resistance – Sept 2010 09 Sep, 2010
Multivitamins and minerals helped obese lose weight – Feb 2010 27 Aug, 2010
Amylase increases with age, as does weight 10 Aug, 2010
Vitamin D and Weight Loss and Obesity – March 2010 08 Aug, 2010
Lose weight and increase vitamin D level in blood – April 2010 08 Aug, 2010
Adequate Vitamin D Levels May Aid Weight Loss in Obese Patients – Minn. 2009 08 Aug, 2010
Vitamin D Promotes Weight Loss – Jan 2010 08 Aug, 2010

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